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HALP!

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:18 am
by mevan
Bloody mint bringing his computers bugs in here :iconbutt:

Well this started a week ago. Was lifting with Sniper for a run and started getting some weird shit happening. Pulled up EVGA monitor and sure enough GPU heats are through the roof. Shut down the game and temps go down. WTF. So out with the can of air, look for any cooling problems and find none. Fan spins freely with no play in the spindle.

Had OC'd it abit and thought that might be the problem. Reset to factory still over heats even in offline mode. Temps come up to about 65C and then stabilize. But after about 10 minutes in game they start to slowly raise up and I stop the game once they get close to 100C.

Pull the card this time and have a look nothing looks out of the ordinary. I now have the fan speed set to 100% all the time, check bios setting and windows setting to see if there is anything out of whack. Try it again this time with the cover off and sure enough in that 10 minute period as the temps start to rise beyond 65C the bloody fan stops................again WTF? Last I rolled back the drivers just incase with Nvidias history a few months back.

The only thing I have changed in the past has been adding a Sound Card. Could this be a PSU problem?


AMD Athlon II X4 620: Have it running at about 2.9 which is about a 10% OC

NVIDIA GeForce GT 240: Currently not OC'd

OCZ Vista Gold Edition Dual Channel PC6400 4 x 2gig sticks

DIAMOND XtremeSound 5.1/16 bit Sound Card

PSU is 430 watts.

Win 7 Pro 64 bit


Any thoughts?

Re: HALP!

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:12 pm
by Main4ce
which drivers are you using and what motherboard do you have.

If the fan stops on the G-card it could be a couple of things, Motherboard bios, chipset drivers, G-card drivers or simply a hardware issue with the card itself. Do you have another system where you can put the G-card into for testing, or another G-card you can test in your current system?

Re: HALP!

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:17 pm
by Cono
Open the canopy on your DB7? :P

Re: HALP!

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:22 pm
by Reddog
Fan definitely should not stop. 430 watts is pretty lean. I would try card in another box just to see

Re: HALP!

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:00 pm
by Main4ce
didn't see that, I concure..430 watts isn't that much for the machine your running! I've got 750 watts PSU

Re: HALP!

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:50 pm
by Airslayr88
PS is ok, not the best choice for gaming tho. If you want to spend $100 get one that is at least 600 somethin watts. ALSO big fix i know i had.... add a program called Rivatuner. its free and its a program that you can make fan profiles for your GPU. you can monitor all your temps as well as fan speeds. i would also invest in a $20 exhaust fan like this one (this is wat i use):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835119066 this baby pumps 42 Cubic Ft / Min of air through my case, that on top of 4 other fans my case stay nice and cool.

Rivatuner is a great program, used it since new pc build. Before rivatuner fan profiles i was running between 75-85c on my GPU at full graphics....after i installed program and set up fan profiles im down to no more than 65c on my GPU. and my fan will last longer not running at 100% all the time. the profiles can be customized any way you want, right now i have my fan kick up at 40/50/60/65 degrees at 70 is wen my fan kicks up to 100%. so it wont wear it out.


Rivatuner guide
http://www.guru3d.com/article/rivatuner ... ock-guide/

Rivatuner Download
http://downloads.guru3d.com/RivaTuner-v ... d-163.html

Re: HALP!

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:55 pm
by mevan
At work atm but before I left.

Re-install all drivers. No change.

Pulled the Sound card. No change.

What I did do was after the fan stop I gave it a zip of can air and away it went. It would run for about 2-3 min then woul slowly stop. Zip it with air again and away it would go.

Most of my buddies all still have APG style Vid Cards so I'm out of luck. But with the above it sure seems mechanical too me.

Thoughts?

From the sounds of it I should upgrade my PSU so i will. Also the heat sink fan on the card is changable with an Artic Air fan so I may go that route next week. But a ticket in with XfX but havent heard back yet.

Re: HALP!

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:00 pm
by mevan
Thanks for the input Slayr. I have been using EVGA's tuner. May try out rivertuner.

Re: HALP!

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:23 pm
by Airslayr88
yeah id recommend it over the EVGA one, seems with pc alot of 3rd party software offers more than the designers.

Re: HALP!

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:41 pm
by mevan
Airslayr88 wrote:yeah id recommend it over the EVGA one, seems with pc alot of 3rd party software offers more than the designers.
Does it work with Win 7 64bit?

So here is the reply I got back from XFX
[DANIEL_E 8/6/2010 1:46:53 AM] Hi, make sure the fan isn`t making contact with anything in the system i.e. a wire, or case cabiling. We recommend Driver Sweeper, found at http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/ which will come in handy for cleaning out traces of older graphics drivers. (Make sure you have the drivers, from www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx downloaded to your desktop.) If you had any non-Nvidia graphics adapter in the system previously (such as Intel onboard video or an ATI-based video card). Go into Add/Remove Programs, and uninstall any ATI graphics drivers as well as NVIDIA graphics drivers. Download the program, install it, but don’t run it until you’ve rebooted into Safe Mode (tap F8 during bootup) and then choose “NVIDIA Display” and “ATI Display” as the cleaning selection. Run it and then you’ll reboot into normal Windows mode in order to reinstall drivers.
:iconjuke:

Re: HALP!

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:41 pm
by mevan
Airslayr88 wrote:yeah id recommend it over the EVGA one, seems with pc alot of 3rd party software offers more than the designers.
Does it work with Win 7 64bit?

So here is the reply I got back from XFX
[DANIEL_E 8/6/2010 1:46:53 AM] Hi, make sure the fan isn`t making contact with anything in the system i.e. a wire, or case cabiling. We recommend Driver Sweeper, found at http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/ which will come in handy for cleaning out traces of older graphics drivers. (Make sure you have the drivers, from www.nvidia.com/download/index.aspx downloaded to your desktop.) If you had any non-Nvidia graphics adapter in the system previously (such as Intel onboard video or an ATI-based video card). Go into Add/Remove Programs, and uninstall any ATI graphics drivers as well as NVIDIA graphics drivers. Download the program, install it, but don’t run it until you’ve rebooted into Safe Mode (tap F8 during bootup) and then choose “NVIDIA Display” and “ATI Display” as the cleaning selection. Run it and then you’ll reboot into normal Windows mode in order to reinstall drivers.
:iconjuke:

Re: HALP!

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:51 am
by Airslayr88
yeah i use it on win 7 64bit

Re: HALP!

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 12:07 pm
by Sniper62
at first it sounds as it might be the PSU, with the problem starting after installing that sound card.

but after u uninstalled the sounds card and are still having the same problem, i wouldnt say your PSU is not the problem. it sounds like to me its the vid card. maybe u knocked it or zapped it, but somthing isnt working as it should. with no place to try it somwhere else its hard to even say that.

got an extra HD laying around? you could format and load up a new OS then all the drivers and see if it is a driver issue.

Re: HALP!

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:32 pm
by Main4ce
M8, don't spray air from an aerosol can into your machine while its running, unless its dry air which most are not! Most have fine liquid droplets in the form of gas.

Re: HALP!

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:46 pm
by mevan
Well just ran a mission on Duss. Bloody thing is working now and temps never went above 58C. No idea but it working now.